Eventually finished a rather poor result in wine made with grapes from de Dijk. My fault, used 25l vessel for around 5L of must so rather a lot of wastage in the lees. Hi hum, 2.8l bottled. BUT a super enthusiastic chap, Johan, at goedappleskoep, helped me with second quality apples (too much calcium as I understand it) at 40c a kilo! Really happy chappy and no stupid little labels to peel off each apple. More soon.